Retired NBA great Tim Hardaway was asked about homosexual former player John Amaechi yesterday on a radio program. Host Dan Le Batard inquired how Hardaway would react if he knew that he had a homosexual teammate. Hardaway’s response has raised a storm of negative reactions.
Here is a direct transcription of the excerpt broadcast on ESPN:
Le Batard: How do you deal with a gay teammate?
Hardaway: [pause] "Whoa! Uh, first of all, I wouldn’t want him on my team. And, uh, second of all, if he was on my team, uh, I would, you know, really distance myself from him because, um, uh, uh, I don’t think that’s right, and you know, I, I, I don’t think that, you know, he should be in the locker room while we are in the locker room, and it’s just a whole lot of other things, so I, I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t even be a part of that; but you know, there’s stuff like that going on and there’s a lot, uh, of other people, I hear, like that, people in the closet and don’t want to come out of the closet, but you know, I just leave that alone."
Le Batard: You know that what you’re saying there, though, Timmy, is flatly homophobic. Right? It’s just flat, it’s just bigotry.
Hardaway: Well, you know, I, you know, I hate gay people. So, uh, uh, you know, I let it be known. I don’t like gay people; I don’t like to be around gay people. I don’t, you know, uh, I yeah, I’m, I’m homophobic. I don’t like it; it shouldn’t be in the world today or in the United States for it, so yeah, I don’t like it.
That’s all transcribed exactly from the ESPN clip. Regarding prevailing attitudes in the NBA, the following exchange occurred, according to multiple print sources:
Hardaway: The majority of the players would ask for him to be traded or they would want to get traded.
Le Betard: But you’d be trading him to a team where he probably wouldn’t be wanted there either, I would imagine.
Hardaway: Right, that is true. Just buy him out his contract and let him go (laughs). You know, something has to give. If you got 12 other ballplayers in your locker room that’s upset and concentrate and always worried about him in the locker room or on the court or whatever, you know, it’s gonna be hard for your teammates to win and accept him as a teammate.
Clearly Hardaway was sandbagged by the questions, as indicated by the number of "uhs" in his response (which I have retained in my transcription in order to convey this discomfort, not to suggest that Hardaway is inarticulate, which he is most certainly not; he has, on the contrary, always come off in interviews as quite intelligent).
Hardaway was obviously not expecting to be asked about homosexuality in a radio conversation about basketball—ordinarily a reasonable expectation, but one that no longer applies now that former NBA player John Amaechi has publicly declared his homosexuality in an attempt to sell more copies of his autobiography which went on sale yesterday.
Confronted later in a telephone interview with a Fox affiliate in Miami, Hardaway retracted his use of the word hate:
Yes, I regret it. I’m sorry. I shouldn’t have said I hate gay people or anything like that," he said. "That was my mistake.
Some observations:
One, the use of the word hate was wrong and intemperate on Hardaway’s part. He was right to apologize for that. (Of course, there are degrees of hatred, and not all of them are toxic, but that is a discussion for another time. Hardaway’s use of that word was definitely inflammatory and poorly conceived.)
Two, note the condescending and openly hostile attitude of the radio host. He calls Hardaway "Timmy" at this point, whereas Hardaway has always been called Tim. Clearly, the host is suggesting, I think inadvertently and therefore quite tellingly, that Hardaway is an inferior person, something of a child whom the host has the authority to remonstrate for naughty behavior. This is also evident in Le Batard’s willingness to characterize Hardaway’s statement as "homophobic," like some modern Puritan denouncing the former player as a witch. Le Batard then says that Hardaway’s statement is bigoted, again taking on the role of a superior upbraiding his inferior.
This openly superior and condescending attitude is very interested indeed as directed toward a man of African descent. That’s not usually acceptable these days, but seems to have gone unnoticed in this instance.
Clearly Le Batard was trying to distance himself from the unexpected anti-homosexuality comments of a revered former NBA player, to save his own reputation in addition to stating his own position. The host’s invocation of cant terms such as "homophobic" and "bigoted" shows that he knows what is and is not socially acceptable to say, and that this is all about power, not logic. More on that later in this post.
Three, Hardaway’s statement that he doesn’t want anything to do with homosexuals may or may not be a reasonable preference, but it’s certainly something people should be allowed to talk about in public. If we’re truly going to have a free society, we’re going to have to hear things we disagree with once in a while. And we’re going to have to answer them with reasoned arguments, not attempts to suppress the discussion.
Four, if people are going to be logically consistent (an unlikely premise, to be sure), Hardaway could stop all the controversy in a moment by simply asserting that he is genetically predisposed toward disapproving of homosexual behavior. Hence, he could argue, he cannot be held responsible for, or even criticized for, this genetically programmed behavior.
The fact that no one has identified such a gene is immaterial; nobody has looked for one yet. Surely one must exist, Hardaway could argue, given that so many people so strongly disapprove of homosexual behavior and that such attitudes have been so prevalent and persistent throughout human history. It is actually a highly plausible argument, he could say, given the evolutionary imperative for heterosexual behavior in creating children. Certainly the idea of an anti-homosexuality gene is every bit as plausible as the notion that there is a gene predisposing people toward homosexual behavior, he could argue. In fact, he could point out, it makes rather more sense in evolutionary terms.
And if it is wrong for society to seek to thwart or even disapprove of homosexual behavior because it is genetically programmed, he could observe, it must also then be wrong for society to attempt to thwart or even disapprove of people’s dislike for homosexual behavior, because that, too, is genetically programmed.
Hardaway could argue that the two positions—approval or disapproval of homosexual behavior—are clearly on equal footing, as far as both genetics and political-social freedom are concerned.
The real difference between the two positions is that one is politically powerful at this point and the other is not.
It’s great to hear from you, Carl. I hope that you’ll comment often.
These are great points. One interesting thing is that one can see an eagerness in the media to make this a big story because it has to do with pro sports. The idea clearly is that if even wealthy, admired professional athletes are too terrified to say anything negative about homosexual behavior, everybody else will get the message that nobody is powerful enough to stand in front of this particular social freight train.
It seems clear to me that even if a person does not in the slightest way condemn the people who engage in homosexual behavior, and indeed shows nothing but sympathy for those who practice it, that merely refusing to concede that such behavior is perfectly fine and normal will constitute cause for the destruction of the person holding such a politically incorrect position.
This is an immense power struggle, and it appears that one side has already won.
Sam, great post and thoughts, as usual. As a sports fan–and one of those strange people who actually like NBA basketball–I’ve been sickened by the hate-fest taking place at the expense of Tim Hardaway. Sports writers and commentators are nearly killing each other to prove how gay-friendly, openminded, and hyper-tolerant they are, all without any evidence of common sense. Just this morning, while going to the store, I heard an ESPN radio guest and host go on and on about how being “gay” must be fine because they have friends who are gay and they are wonderful, normal people. The argument, to use that term loosely, appears to be this: if I like someone, I must approve of everything they do. Which begs the question: what about “gays” and “straights” who are jerks? Or does that have nothing to do with their sexual “preference”?
The point that Hardaway should have made, if he hadn’t been blindsided and had a bit more time to consider his response, is that there is a distinction to be made between respecting the dignity of every person and judging their actions. A murderer is still a human being; what they have done is wrong. A homosexual is a human being deserving of respect and love; the act of homosexuality is wrong, contrary not just to “religious beliefs,” but to the natural order (which is what, I think, Hardaway recognized and tried to express, albeit poorly).
Unfortunately, this point is not being made, nor will it be anytime soon. The lovefest is on, and any pro athlete who dares to question whether homosexual acts are good or right or natural will immediately be branded “homophobic,” a most Orwellian term.
I agree that the uses of the word “hate” are worth discussing, and that you’ve made a good start of it here. I would like to hear more.
Regarding your final point, note that I called attention to the interviewer’s condescending attitude toward Hardaway. Just as you suggest, hardly anyone but me has tried to “stand up for the humanity of the speaker” in this case. Clearly there is a huge fear of persecution operating in this subject area, the reasons for which are made clear in your quote from the Kirk/Madsen book.
Regarding point 1 above: Would the use of the word “hate” have been inflammatory if it had referred to people who talk with their mouth full, or who deliberately break wind in public, or who preach one thing but practise another? If not, how much more unreasonable is it to denounce Mr. Hardaway for stating that he hates men who view him as a sexual object – whether or not they find him attractive – and particularly where those men may end up seeing him naked? In this context I believe it is well within correct English idiom to use the word “hate” either as a synonym for “(intensely) dislike” – which Mr. Hardaway apparently did, as indicated by his subsequent choice of words – or as shorthand for “I hate it when…”. You accept that there are “non-toxic” meanings of the word “hate”. When would it be opportune to discuss these if not at a time when an honest man has been seemingly tricked by an inflammatory question?
I believe that, before rounding on Mr. Hardaway’s choice of (apparently) spoken, rather than written, words, it may be worth considering the following extract from the notorious pro-sodomy “brainwasher’s” guide, “After the Ball”, by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen (1989). The context of the quote is a general recommendation to undermine opposition to sodomy by linking it to the Holocaust:
“Most contemporary hate groups on the Religious Right will bitterly resent the implied connection between homohatred and Nazi fascism. But since they can’t defend the latter, they’ll end up having to distance themselves by insisting that THEY would never go to such extremes. Such declarations of civility towards gays, of course, set our worst detractors on the slippery slope toward recognition of fundamental gay rights” (p.221).
I think this dynamic may well be in play here, judging by the absence of non-Left commentators willing to defend Mr. Hardaway’s quite natural expression of revulsion. Perhaps the instinct in these cases should be to stand up for the humanity of the speaker before attempting to appease malevolent Liberals.